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May 18th, 2020
Bringing together healthcare providers, business leaders and forward thinkers at the intersection of healthcare and real estate to explore optimizing human, property, or professional performance. In conversations with innovators, industry disruptors and strategy masters inspired by…read more
May 10, 2022
On today’s podcast episode I interview Eric Tait, MD/MBA. He is an internal medicine physician that started investing in healthcare properties, in partnerships with his physician friends. Now, he operates an asset management firm that invests in a variety of commercial properties. In this interview, we hear his thoughts on how he approaches evaluating healthcare real estate investments...read more
May 3, 2022
Welcome to the 100th episode of this podcast. Today’s interview is with Dave Foster, The 1031 Investor. He shares how this investment tool can defer capital gains taxes indefinitely by investing strategically using a step up in basis and designing your exit strategy. He stresses that by using this investment strategy for income property investments, you never have to worry about the capital gains tax rate as you are always deferring your tax liability and creating more jobs as a result...read more
April 26, 2022
Trisha’s guest this week is Jaime Northam, Vice President of Healthcare Development at Ryan Companies. Jaime shares how she is seeing healthcare systems designed with the future and adaptability in mind, with regard to their spaces. She discusses trends she is seeing in healthcare development, to include focusing on the continuum of care, centers of excellence, integrating telehealth, and an increase in concentration of behavioral health...read more
April 19, 2022
Trisha’s guest this week is David Denniston, CFA with Centurion Financial Strategies. David’s wealth management firm advises a lot of physicians, and many happen to be in the first 20 years of their career. My takeaway from this interview is that real estate, especially healthcare real estate with its long-term leases and tenants who are not able to work remotely, is an investment to consider...read more
April 12, 2022
Today’s episode of the Providers, Properties and Performance podcast is my interview on the Healthcare Leadership Podcast with host Jennifer Thompson, where I discuss the benefits for physician owners to invest in the real estate where they practice. We talk about best practices that allow physicians to own healthcare real estate while continuing to practice to their license...read more
April 5, 2022
Trisha’s guest this week is Anthony Yeung, MD. He is a retired spine surgeon who developed the Yeung Endoscopic Spine System. Dr. Yeung has lectured internationally and is currently writing a book regarding this procedure. His private practice, Desert Institute for Spine Care (DISC), is now run by his son and other partners. He opened one of the first ambulatory surgery centers in Arizona...read more
March 29, 2022
Trisha’s guest this week is Daniel Lieberman, MD. He is the medical director of Phoenix Spine and Joint, a multidisciplinary spine and orthopedic surgery practice with three surgery centers located throughout the Phoenix area (with a fourth one on the way). Dr. Lieberman shares how he started and grew his practice, and how he serves his patients with minimally invasive procedures...read more
March 22, 2022
Trisha’s guest this week is Alfonzo Leon, Chief Investment Officer at Global Medical REIT. Global Medical REIT is a publicly traded real estate investment trust trading under the symbol GMRE, with a current market cap of over $1 billion. We discuss Global Medical REIT’s history, Alfonzo’s background in the industry, and the assets that Global Medical REIT focuses on in the market...read more
March 15, 2022
Today’s episode of the Providers, Properties and Performance podcast is my interview on the Women Investing Network podcast with host Sharon Lechter. We discuss the healthcare real estate industry asset class and its value to investors and physicians...read more
March 8, 2022
Today’s episode of the Providers, Properties and Performance podcast is my interview on the Grow Money Business podcast with host Grant Bledsoe (my guest on Episode 90). Grant is a certified financial planner helping business owners with wealth building strategies. Many of his clients are physicians, and we discuss the economic benefits of physicians owning the real estate where they operate their practice...read more
March 1, 2022
Trisha’s guest this week is W. Todd Jensen, Executive Vice President of Investments at CADDIS Healthcare Real Estate. CADDIS acquires and develops healthcare properties, primarily in the smile states. It started out and remains a physician-owned company, and Todd shares the CADDIS background as well as where its focus is moving forward...read more
February 22, 2022
Trisha’s guest this week is Grant Bledsoe, Certified Financial Planner with Three Oaks Wealth. His company works with a lot of physicians and business owners. He advocates for physician ownership in the properties where they practice for long-term financial benefits, increased equity, and tax advantages...read more
February 15, 2022
This week’s episode of the Providers, Properties and Performance podcast features a few minutes from the most listened to episodes of 2021 with a variety of industry experts. You will hear from a two-part interview with John Gorman of Nightingale Partners on investing healthcare properties in opportunity zones, another two-part episode with Robin Farmanfarmaian on the new healthcare economy, and from Dr. Leif Dahleen, a former anesthesiologist that promotes passive investing in real estate...read more
February 8, 2022
This week’s episode of the Providers, Properties and Performance podcast features a few minutes from the most listened to investor episodes of 2021. You will hear from Patrick Wathen, a two part episode with the Senior VP of Equity, Ben Ochs, CEO of Anchor Health Properties, Ann Duginske Cibulka, Director of Real Estate Development, Healthcare at Ryan Companies and David Moises, Director of Investments at Flagler Healthcare Investments. Thank you for joining me for today’s episode...read more
February 1, 2022
This week’s episode of the Providers, Properties and Performance podcast features a few minutes from the most listened to clinician interviews of 2021. You will hear from Aric Burke, CEO of Atlas Healthcare Partners, Dr. Rassa Abdoll of the Center for Pediatric Dentistry, Dr. Jonathan Johnson of Comprehensive Wound Care Services and Capital Aesthetic and Laser Center and the two-part episode with Dr. Alejandro Badia from Badia Hand to Shoulder Center, The Surgery Center at Doral and OrthoNOW Immediate Orthopedic Care Center...read more
January 25, 2022
This week’s episode of the Providers, Properties and Performance podcast is an interview where Galen Nuttall interviewed me on his Clean Bill of Wealth podcast. On Galen’s Clean Bill of Wealth podcast, he interviews physicians and professionals about financial health. As a certified financial planner, he helps physicians make financial decisions to help grow their wealth. We discussed the benefits of, and differences between, active and passive ownership in healthcare real estate...read more
January 18, 2022
Trisha’s guest this week is Dr. Vu Kiet Tran, an emergency room physician who now also consults with, advises, and mentors other physicians on personal financial health and investments to help them grow their wealth. They discuss the differences in healthcare systems between Canada and the United States, his entrepreneurial path, as well as his medical career...read more
January 11, 2022
This week’s episode of the Providers, Properties and Performance podcast is an interview where Brent Lacey interviewed me on his The Scope of Practice podcast. Brent’s The Scope of Practice business aims to educate his fellow physicians on financial health and in this interview we discuss the economic benefits of physician ownership of the place where a clinician practices as well as physicians becoming real estate investors. Brent is also a practicing physician at Texas Digestive Disease Consultants...read more
January 4, 2022
Trisha’s guest this week is James Winchester, Principal and Lead Financial Strategist with CMAC Partners. CMAC exclusively works with physicians that want to own the real estate where they practice. The company began with sourcing financing for physician owners, and they now also develop ownership structures that allow clinicians to own different amounts in different sites and that allow for change in ownership throughout the life cycle of clinicians’ careers...read more
December 21, 2021
Trisha’s guest this week is Kevin Jones, Managing Director and Real Estate Practice Leader at ZRG Partners. He focuses on recruiting for the healthcare real estate sector. Our discussion centers around the role technology plays in decision-making within the healthcare real estate industry, and combining that with the traditional “boots on the ground” way of doing business in commercial real estate...read more
December 14, 2021
This week Trisha is sharing an interview she did on the Real Estate Investing for Cash Flow podcast by Kevin Bupp. They discussed healthcare real estate, why it is attractive, and what investors need to know before entering into the asset class. In addition, they touch on sale leasebacks, some pandemic effects, and a general overview of the industry...read more
December 7, 2021
Trisha’s guest this week is Aiman Shehabi, a private real estate investor who recently worked on a deal with Trisha as a first-time commercial real estate investor. Aiman had purchased the property in 2004 at a high occupancy rate, experienced the 2008-2009 economic downturn, and then held the property during a light rail construction project right in front of the property...read more
November 30, 2021
This week’s episode is to announce the official launch of DOCPROPERTIES, a healthcare real estate investment firm. We are here to help healthcare practices and investors collaborate on maximizing the economic benefit of owning healthcare properties, positioning medical properties to produce cash flow, and maximizing the returns upon sale. We feel by helping healthcare practices on the financial side of owning the real estate where they operate, and providing strategies for managing occupancy costs, DOCPROPERTIES enables practices to better focus on providing quality care....read more
November 23, 2021
Trisha’s guest this week is Jay Heald, Vice President, Business Development and Managing Broker with MedProperties Group. MedProperties Group delivered beautifully designed, functional, and high-quality medical office buildings to the market. Jay shares how they are developing according to trends and demands, as well as their flexibility to offer physician ownership for those practices interested in building equity...read more
November 16, 2021
Trisha’s guest this week is Scott Burgess, as part of the healthcare innovator series. His practice focuses on helping ourselves stay healthy rather than use the healthcare system. I encourage you to listen to what he has to say and consider it without judgment or figuring out how you might be able to make dramatic lifestyle changes right away. In 30 days, perhaps you can listen again and see what speaks to you. Maybe try one new thing for a while, see how it works, and then listen again. If nothing speaks to you, the benefit of this medium is that you can simply turn it off...read more
November 9, 2021
Trisha’s guest this week is Scott Burgess, as part of the healthcare innovator series. His practice focuses on helping ourselves stay healthy rather than use the healthcare system. I encourage you to listen to what he has to say and consider it without judgment or figuring out how you might be able to make dramatic lifestyle changes right away. In 30 days, perhaps you can listen again and see what speaks to you. Maybe try one new thing for a while, see how it works, and then listen again. If nothing speaks to you, the benefit of this medium is that you can simply turn it off...read more
November 2, 2021
Trisha’s guest this week is Leif Dahleen, MD, a former anesthesiologist. We discuss physician burnout in general, as well as the complexity of practicing medicine that drove his mission to retire early and invest in real estate to lead him to financial independence. He teaches this FIRE concept to other physicians, and can be found at physiciansonfire.com...read more
October 26, 2021
Trisha’s guest this week is Cory Fawcett, MD, a former surgeon and current real estate entrepreneur. We discuss a clinician’s journey through his real estate investment path, from physician owner to retired surgeon, to investing in other income-producing real estate assets, and now teaching other clinicians the same through his coaching. He has also published several books on this topic, and you can find those at financialsuccessmd.com...read more
October 19, 2021
Trisha’s guest this week is Kirat Kharode, JD, FACHE, Co-founder of HealCo – a virtual healthcare marketplace based out of Jersey City, NJ. Telemedicine and virtual healthcare marketplaces are now part of healthcare delivery, and this interview will help those of us in healthcare and involved in medical properties understand how to integrate with this model to work together, to treat more patients with the goal of improving healthcare outcomes, and reducing the cost of care...read more
October 12, 2021
Trisha’s guest this week is Todd Bryant, President and Managing Member of Healthcare Development Partners. Todd entered the healthcare real estate market in its infancy, and he is still delivering projects to the market. Based on the current real estate needs of various healthcare service lines to deliver care...read more
October 5, 2021
In part 2 of this series, Trisha’s guests are Connie Boker (Director of Operations) and Jennifer Craig-Muller (Director of All of Us Research Program), of Banner Health Alzheimer’s Institute Imaging Program. A consistent message of this podcast is how healthcare real estate is a demand-driven and mission-critical component of delivering healthcare services, and today’s guests provide the perfect example...read more
September 28, 2021
For the next two weeks, we are going to feature healthcare innovators: Connie Boker (Director of Operations) and Jennifer Craig-Muller (Director of All of Us Research Program), of Banner Health Alzheimer’s Institute Imaging Program. A consistent message of this podcast is how healthcare real estate is a demand-driven and mission-critical component of delivering healthcare services, and today’s guests provide the perfect example...read more
September 21, 2021
Trisha’s guest this week is Brent Lacey, MD, who is a gastroenterologist with Texas Digestive Disease Consultants. Dr. Lacey also consults with other clinicians on their personal finances, especially when they are considering opening up a private practice, through his business The Scope of Practice...read more
September 14, 2021
This week, we are switching it up! I am the guest, being interviewed by Dr. Kevin Christie (my guest on episode 65) for the Modern Chiropractic Marketing Podcast. Kevin educates other chiropractors on best marketing practices as well as business practices for owning and operating a chiropractic business. I come in on the real estate side, and we discuss owning versus leasing office space and the long-term benefits of both when it comes to running a practice....read more
September 7, 2021
Trisha’s guest this week is Mark Mullen, Senior Vice President of Development with Klingbeil Capital Management. Klingbeil typically owns, operates, and develops apartment complexes throughout the country. Mark shares their story of getting into the medical office asset class for a short period of time, starting with medical office condos and ending with a multi-tenant medical office building that sold a couple years ago...read more
August 31, 2021
Trisha’s guest this week is Chase Westen, Chief Administrative Officer with Phoenix ER & Medical Hospital. This is a micro-hospital located in Chandler, Arizona, and he shares how he is able to maintain a five-minute or less wait time for patients. We also discuss how to triage patients to determine if they are in an emergency or non-emergency situation, and then guide them to where they can receive effective treatment. With the rising costs of healthcare, they are very transparent in their costs. This is a timely and interesting conversation, and I hope you enjoy it as well...read more
August 24, 2021
Trisha’s guest this week is Kevin Christie, DC, owner/chiropractor at Health-Fit Chiropractic & Sports Recovery. He takes us through the path of being an entrepreneurial clinician and how he started his private practice, purchased the real estate that he operates in, and continues to grow and expand as a business owner...read more
August 17, 2021
Trisha’s guest this week is David Moises, Director of Investments with Flagler Healthcare Investments. He shares how Flagler uses a very data-driven approach to investing in healthcare. They analyze the health outcomes of a population and then focus on the real estate to support the healthcare industry in that location...read more
August 10, 2021
This week’s episode is the second in a two-part series that features Victor McConnell, Managing Director and Head of Real Estate Services with VMG Health. We discuss trends in the healthcare real estate industry and the healthcare industry….read more
August 3, 2021
This week’s episode is the first in a two-part series that features Victor McConnell, Managing Director and Head of Real Estate Services with VMG Health. We discuss evaluating healthcare properties and the importance of understanding the value of your real estate…read more
July 27, 2021
Trisha’s guest this week is Josh Richmond, Founding Principal and President of Evergreen Medical Properties. We discuss how investing in healthcare properties is much more than just the numbers. The long-term investment success of healthcare real estate property involves the long-term success of the healthcare companies and clinicians that occupy the property, and meeting their needs so they can successfully treat their patients….read more
July 13, 2021
Trisha’s guest this week is Ryann Roberts, physical therapist and owner of Arizona Orthopedic Physical Therapy and Kids Place Pediatric Therapy. Ryann takes us on a journey from the start of his career to beginning in private practice and then becoming a physician owner of the real estate that he operates his eight sites out of….read more
July 13, 2021
This week’s episode is the second in a two-part series that features David Lynn. He is the president and chief investment officer of Healthcare MOB REIT at White Oak Healthcare Finance. We discuss the resiliency of the healthcare real estate asset class that held its value through the pandemic, and we get to know more about David as well…read more
July 6, 2021
This week’s episode is the first in a two-part series that features David Lynn. He is the president and chief investment officer of Healthcare MOB REIT at White Oak Healthcare Finance. We discuss how being a mission-critical, demand-driven asset class helped healthcare real estate retain its value through the pandemic and bodes well for long-term resiliency in the market..read more
June 29th, 2021
Trisha’s guest this week is Brian Howard, founder and president of Stage Equity Partners. His real estate investment company is headquartered in Chicago but invests in medical office buildings and healthcare real estate nationally. Brian shares the background of Stage Equity Partners and how he is able to respond to market conditions to make solid investment decisions...read more
June 22nd, 2021
Trisha’s guest this week is Tim Spooner, physical therapist and president/CEO of Spooner Physical Therapy and Proactive MSD. He started Spooner Physical Therapy over 30 years ago, and it has now grown to 22 locations to serve the needs of his patients. Along the way, where he has had to purchase or develop buildings, he has become a physician owner of real estate as a result. Tim has invested in his own sites and he is also a partner in multi-tenant medical buildings…read more
June 15th, 2021
This week’s episode is the second in a two-part series that features Gurpreet Padda, MD. He is a private practice physician out of St. Louis, Missouri, who runs Reversing Diabetes MD and Padda Institute Center for Interventional Pain Management. This week we dive into his real estate management, development, and investment company, Red Pill Kapital. We discuss how he started it, what he invests in, and his advocacy for providing passive real estate wealth-building strategies for private practice physicians…read more
June 8th, 2021
This week’s episode is the first in a two-part series that features Gurpreet Padda, MD. He is a private practice physician out of St. Louis, Missouri, who runs Reversing Diabetes MD and Padda Institute Center for Interventional Pain Management. Dr. Padda also runs Red Pill Kapital, which is a real estate investment development and management company. He is an advocate for educating private practice physicians on passive wealth strategies through owning real estate….read more
June 1st, 2021
This week’s episode is the second in a two-part series that features previously-aired interviews with healthcare company owners, including physician owners, who built their own buildings. They share their lessons learned around building a practice as well as owning and operating their own real estate.. …read more
May 25th, 2021
This week’s episode is the first in a two-part series that features previously-aired interviews with healthcare company owners, including physician owners, who built their own buildings. They share their lessons learned around building a practice as well as owning and operating their own real estate. …read more
May 18th, 2021
Trisha’s guest today is Aric Burke, CEO of Atlas Healthcare Partners. Atlas owns and operates ambulatory surgery centers together with Banner Health through its markets.Atlas not only offers a convenient location for its patients and a lower cost of care for both the hospital and the patient, but also allows the physicians a convenient way to perform cases and gives that …read more
May 11th, 2021
With the one-year anniversary of the PPP Podcast on the horizon, we’re bringing Season One to an end by sharing episodes featuring short clips from the most listened-to interviews of 2020.A couple of weeks ago, we featured the top five episodes of 2020 with clinicians. Last week, we got to hear from our top five episodes of 2020 featuring healthcare …read more
May 4th, 2021
With the one-year anniversary of the Providers Properties and Performance Podcast on the horizon, our next three episodes will bring Season One to an end by featuring short clips from the most listened-to interviews of 2020. Last week, we featured the top five episodes of 2020 with clinicians….read more
April 26th, 2021
With the one-year anniversary of the Providers Properties and Performance Podcast on the horizon, our next three episodes will bring Season One to an end by featuring short clips from the most listened-to interviews of 2020.In this episode, we feature clinicians who share their stories as entrepreneurs in private practice and healers in their healthcare specialty…read more
April 20th, 2021
Trisha’s guest today is Patrick Wathen, Senior VP at Equity, a full-service commercial real estate firm headquartered in Columbus, Ohio with various offices nationwide and transacting in even more markets. We learn about how Equity got started, its path into the healthcare real estate asset class, and some of the philosophy behind Patrick’s leadership style….read more
April 13th, 2021
Trisha’s guest today is Dr. Jonathan Johnson, a private practice physician based out of Washington, D.C. He is a wound care doctor who owns and operates two private practices: Comprehensive Wound Care Services and Capital Aesthetic and Laser Center. We walk through his journey from medical school to private practice…read more
April 6th, 2021
Trisha continues her conversation with Robin Farmanfarmaian, a keynote public speaker and an entrepreneur that has invested in several healthcare technology startup companies. Last week, we touched on cutting-edge technologies in the medical office space that are and will change healthcare delivery and care…read more
March 30th, 2021
Trisha’s guest today is Robin Farmanfarmaian, a keynote public speaker and entrepreneur that has invested in several healthcare technology startup companies. Through her own personal health journey and work with cutting-edge technologies, she sees innovations coming to the medical office space that are and will change healthcare delivery and care…read more
March 23rd, 2021
Trisha’s guest today is Dr. Rassa Abdoll, a pediatric dentist, who discusses his practice, the Center for Pediatric Dentistry located in Gilbert, Arizona. He shares his path to pediatric dentistry and his philosophy on care. Dr. Abdoll shares with us how he finally opened a new practice…read more
March 16th, 2021
Trisha continues her conversation with Dr. Alejandro Badia, an orthopedic surgeon focusing on hand and upper extremities based out of Miami, Florida. He operates Badia Hand to Shoulder Center, The Surgery Center at Doral, and the immediate orthopedic care center OrthoNOW…read more
March 9th, 2021
Trisha’s guest today is Dr. Alejandro Badia, an orthopedic surgeon focusing on hand and upper extremities based out of Miami, Florida. He operates Badia Hand to Shoulder Center, The Surgery Center at Doral, and the immediate orthopedic care center OrthoNOW…read more
March 2nd, 2021
Trisha continues her conversation with Ben Ochs, CEO of Anchor Health Properties, a national, full-service development and management company devoted exclusively to the development of medical facilities. Last week, Ben provided the background of the company …read more
February 23rd, 2021
Trisha’s guest today is Ben Ochs, CEO of Anchor Health Properties, a national, full-service development and management company devoted exclusively to the development of medical facilities. Listen in as Ben provides the background of the company and the story…read more
February 16th, 2021
Trisha continues her conversation with John Gorman, Founder and Chairman at Nightingale Partners LLC, the first Opportunity Zone fund to invest in social determinants of health interventions with health insurers, local governments, and provider organizations….read more
February 9th, 2021
Trisha’s guest today is John Gorman, Founder and Chairman at Nightingale Partners LLC, the first Opportunity Zone fund to invest in social determinants of health interventions with health insurers, local governments, and provider organizations….read more
February 2nd, 2021
Trisha’s guest today is Ann Duginske Cibulka, Director of Real Estate Development at Ryan Companies US. Ryan Companies is a family-owned business that started as a general contractor and has since become a developer that is involved in a variety of commercial real estate…read more
Past Episodes
- EP01 - Managing Coronavirus
- EP02 - The Great Lockdown: Rethink, Regroup and Recoup
- EP03 - Listening, Diagnosing, and Telemedicine
- EP04 - Functioning Better: Knowing The Why Not Just The What
- EP05 - Using Healthcare Real Estate to Provide Affordable Healthcare (Part 1 of 2)
- EP06 - Using Healthcare Real Estate to Provide Affordable Healthcare - (Part 2 of 2)
- EP07 - Banner Health, a Healthcare Company Growing to Meet the Needs of Its Patients
- EP08 - Physical Therapy for All to Recover, Prevent Pain and Function Better (Part 1 of 2)
- EP09- Physical Therapy for All to Recover, Prevent Pain and Function Better (Part 2 of 2)
- EP10- Partnering with Physicians
- EP11- Community Dentist for the Whole Family
- EP12- East Meets West for Primary Care
- EP13- Investing in Properties with Practicing Physicians
- EP14- On the Front Lines of Opioid Abuse Disorder (Part 1 of 1)
- EP15- On the Front Lines of Opioid Abuse Disorder (Part 2 of 2)
- EP16 - A Physician Owners Path to Advocating Sleep Health and Hygiene
- EP17 - Bringing Buildings Back to Life (Part 1 of 2)
- EP18 - Bringing Buildings Back to Life (Part 2 of 2)
- EP19 - Simplifying Development to Enhance Healthcare Brands
- EP20 - Investing in the Future of Healthcare Delivery and Demand
- EP21 - Pioneering Healthcare Delivery
- EP22 - Resilience and Returns (Part 1 of 2)
- EP23 - Resilience and Returns (Part 2 of 2)
- EP24 - Making Healthy Smiles for Happy Lives
- EP25 - Increasing Healthspan One Starfish at a Time (Part 1 of 2)
- EP26 - Increasing Healthspan One Starfish at a Time (Part 2 of 2)
- EP27 - Happily Investing in Hairy Healthcare Properties (Part 1 of 2)
- EP28 - Happily Investing in Hairy Healthcare Properties (Part 2 of 2)
- EP29: Providing, Financing and Investing in Dental Healthcare
- EP30: Treating, Teaching and Healing Kids (Part 1 of 2)
- EP31 - Treating, Teaching and Healing Kids (Part 2 of 2)
- EP32: Acutely Serving the Behavioral Health Needs of Mature Adults
- EP33: Healthcare’s Cost vs Quality – Where are we? (Part 1 of 2)
- EP34: Healthcare’s Cost vs Quality – Where are we? (Part 2 of 2)
- EP35: Teaming up with Providers for Successful Investing with guest Dan Klein
Meet the Host
Trisha Talbot
“In my experience as a healthcare real estate advisor for almost 20 years the best solutions are the results of clinicians and investors partnering and collaborating. The result allows patients to receive care when and where they need it and investors the returns they need to build and manage facilities.”
